I feel like I have no place as a non binary person. Mainstream spaces are full of tucutes, but 4tran adjacent spaces seem to get more and more weird like that. Am I still welcome here? Is my dysphoria enough or are we already actual anti-enby transmedicalists now?
This is the post btw: https://www.reddit.com/r/4tran4/comments/1sczen7/comment/oehh2ss/
This has always been my biggest gripe with 4tran spaces and it’s only became more and more frequent this past month, there’s like this inevitable swing from reactionary takes like this to nuggets of gold of interesting takes, cathartic posts putting things into words I wasn’t able to, and incredible art to nothing but a spiral into reactionary garbage like that comment. I don’t really know if transmed is the right word for them because the definition of that is silly. I feel like these days there two types of transsexuals, the ones who believe if you take hrt and you like the effects of it (including non-binary ppl), you were very likely dysphoric before therefore you are a transsexual, and the ones that believe from the getgo as a toddler you’ve had to have been so explicitly suicidal about your existence and outwardly express how much you want to be the other gender or and are desperately seeking srs later in life or you aren’t trans.
I take great issue with the latter tbh because even if they are ““pro-diy”” some of them are still outwardly antagonistic and divisive in a manner that makes me wonder what their end goal really is in the first place, like the takes and opinions they express will just lead to more confused people repping, their opinions cause more harm than good. Like I guess they are fine with “AGP CISSOID TRANSGENDERS” taking hrt, but they still resent and feel disgust towards them, and anyone who doesn’t perfectly fit in their category is whatever AGP AGAMP term. Functionally they are like one step away removed from the stereotypical transmed, the only difference is they don’t outright condone gatekeeping yet.
This comment is one of those gold nuggets tbh.
4tranners will say blatantly reactionary things and think they’re woke for it for some reason
i dont even get how people can think this even from a purely neurological perspective the ideia that brain sex is completely binary is so blatantly ridiculous and not supported by evidence at all
no dude it’s one or the other you’re male or female, okay?
You’re welcome here dw
thank you
I’ve seen more anti-enby posts on r/truscum than 4tran spaces. Make of that what you will
4tran adjacent spaces are v retarded when it comes to nb people it sucks so hard
Its reddit. Half that community is probably right wing larpers, after the orchi stuff caused a containment breach I wouldnt take anything on it or really any of the subs seriously.
CIA made non binaries actually
Im non-binary though not very open about it but 4tranners have always been really nice to me, i stay away from the reactionary hbs types though even if i am openly transsex
most 4tranners are only not right wingers because theyre trans so this is what results
I’m a non-binary person and I’m treated very kindly here. the simple answer is that these people are just brainlets and coons. they unironcially think that hating the concept of nonbinary people will somehow save trannydo. smartest stirner dickrider.
yeah what a retarded take…
Non-binary is real and it’s not exactly a difficult thing to conceptualize. We know that something in the biological system that determines sex can break and cause one to be born the wrong one for binary trans, so it’s not difficult to see how it could break in a way that leaves one with a non-binary incongruence complete with dysphoria.
Here’s a related paper whose abstract I skimmed. Much more research is required for us to understand why and how being transgender works, especially for non-binary, but for OOP is straight up denying that (‘tru’ or not) non-binary people exist at all and it’s only a psyop. One literally showed up to the thread.
And yet somehow you’re in the wrong if you point out that reactionism/truscum/transmedicalism has become popualr on r/4tran4
transmedicalism is universally hated in 4tran and adjacent spaces.
Idk where this came from but that’s not what that means??
Transmed just means you think you need dysphoria to be traans
but a lot of them dont consider nb dysphoria as real dysphoria
“Transmed just means you think you need dysphoria to be trans”
no that’s called common sense :/
Google what transmed means for me real quick
It jsut comes from the tucute/truscum debate on tumblr I’m pretty sure (which was about needing dysphoria to be trans)
“A person who believes that medically-diagnosed gender dysphoria or medical transition are essential traits of being transgender.”
the key part is the “medical diagnosis” which is literally where “transMED” comes from. someone who generally thinks dysphoria is needed to be trans would be truscum if they really want a word to describe themselves with.
Truscum is a slur made up for transmeds what 😭
ive exclusively seen people self identify with the term truscum, never seen it in an insulting kind of context. ive seen transmed used more as an insult or “slur”.
lowkirk this definition is stupid and i don’t like it, if not transmed than i want some word for people who love medical gatekeeping and want to do more of it
Traditionally transmed meant the medical gatekeepy types. Now it’s kinda just the same as truscum
I mean the origin of the word truscum is literally that it was made up as an insult towards transmeds
Cleary not if people are attacking other transsexuals for not fitting bullshit standards of ‘trutrans’ and making them feel unsafe. Yeah they’re not restricting them from medical transition, but the attitude is certainly there.
ive moslty lurked r/4tran4. also been on the board but only a tiny bit but. and ive only really ever seen people call nondysphorics (aka cis) faketrans. and if someone telling you that you don’t have a condition that you do not in fact have makes you feel unsafe then stay off the internet
“this cancer support group makes me feel unsafe because they say i cant identify with cancer if i dont have cancer :(”
So like did you look at OP’s post snd the image attached to it or are you simply ignorant
what is the implication here, i feel like youre being intentionally vage.
are you trying to imply the joke being made in the screenshot is the same thing as harassing someone for not being “truetrans” enough?
I mean… yeah? I think it’s pretty reasonable to not want transsexual communities to be actively hostile to fellow transsexuals for transphobic (trutrans bullshit is just downstream of Blanchardism/Benjaminism) reasons
“fellow transsexuals”
non binary isnt transsexual though. there is no third sex to trans into. non binary is a social identity. there are probably people who are transsexual and identify as non binary but theyre not the same.
also 4tran adjacent spaces are literally the only spaces ive been able to find at least that arent overrun by nondysphoric (cis) people so while yeah i think “if you do xyz youre faketrans” is stupid, keeping out genuine actual fake trans people is reasonable.
the 96 people who upvoted that are ngmi
