I feel like I have no place as a non binary person. Mainstream spaces are full of tucutes, but 4tran adjacent spaces seem to get more and more weird like that. Am I still welcome here? Is my dysphoria enough or are we already actual anti-enby transmedicalists now?
This is the post btw: https://www.reddit.com/r/4tran4/comments/1sczen7/comment/oehh2ss/
4tranners will say blatantly reactionary things and think they’re woke for it for some reason
i dont even get how people can think this even from a purely neurological perspective the ideia that brain sex is completely binary is so blatantly ridiculous and not supported by evidence at all
no dude it’s one or the other you’re male or female, okay?
You’re welcome here dw
thank you
CIA made non binaries actually
Its reddit. Half that community is probably right wing larpers, after the orchi stuff caused a containment breach I wouldnt take anything on it or really any of the subs seriously.
yeah what a retarded take…
most 4tranners are only not right wingers because theyre trans so this is what results
I’m a non-binary person and I’m treated very kindly here. the simple answer is that these people are just brainlets and coons. they unironcially think that hating the concept of nonbinary people will somehow save trannydo. smartest stirner dickrider.
the 96 people who upvoted that are ngmi
redditors don’t have the shittest takes challenge level impossible
Non-binary is real and it’s not exactly a difficult thing to conceptualize. We know that something in the biological system that determines sex can break and cause one to be born the wrong one for binary trans, so it’s not difficult to see how it could break in a way that leaves one with a non-binary incongruence complete with dysphoria.
Here’s a related paper whose abstract I skimmed. Much more research is required for us to understand why and how being transgender works, especially for non-binary, but for OOP is straight up denying that (‘tru’ or not) non-binary people exist at all and it’s only a psyop. One literally showed up to the thread.
And yet somehow you’re in the wrong if you point out that reactionism/truscum/transmedicalism has become popualr on r/4tran4
transmedicalism is universally hated in 4tran and adjacent spaces.
Idk where this came from but that’s not what that means??
Transmed just means you think you need dysphoria to be traans
lowkirk this definition is stupid and i don’t like it, if not transmed than i want some word for people who love medical gatekeeping and want to do more of it
“Transmed just means you think you need dysphoria to be trans”
no that’s called common sense :/
Google what transmed means for me real quick
It jsut comes from the tucute/truscum debate on tumblr I’m pretty sure (which was about needing dysphoria to be trans)
“A person who believes that medically-diagnosed gender dysphoria or medical transition are essential traits of being transgender.”
the key part is the “medical diagnosis” which is literally where “transMED” comes from. someone who generally thinks dysphoria is needed to be trans would be truscum if they really want a word to describe themselves with.
Truscum is a slur made up for transmeds what 😭
ive exclusively seen people self identify with the term truscum, never seen it in an insulting kind of context. ive seen transmed used more as an insult or “slur”.
Traditionally transmed meant the medical gatekeepy types. Now it’s kinda just the same as truscum
I mean the origin of the word truscum is literally that it was made up as an insult towards transmeds
Cleary not if people are attacking other transsexuals for not fitting bullshit standards of ‘trutrans’ and making them feel unsafe. Yeah they’re not restricting them from medical transition, but the attitude is certainly there.
ive moslty lurked r/4tran4. also been on the board but only a tiny bit but. and ive only really ever seen people call nondysphorics (aka cis) faketrans. and if someone telling you that you don’t have a condition that you do not in fact have makes you feel unsafe then stay off the internet
“this cancer support group makes me feel unsafe because they say i cant identify with cancer if i dont have cancer :(”
So like did you look at OP’s post snd the image attached to it or are you simply ignorant
what is the implication here, i feel like youre being intentionally vage.
are you trying to imply the joke being made in the screenshot is the same thing as harassing someone for not being “truetrans” enough?
I mean… yeah? I think it’s pretty reasonable to not want transsexual communities to be actively hostile to fellow transsexuals for transphobic (trutrans bullshit is just downstream of Blanchardism/Benjaminism) reasons
“fellow transsexuals”
non binary isnt transsexual though. there is no third sex to trans into. non binary is a social identity. there are probably people who are transsexual and identify as non binary but theyre not the same.
also 4tran adjacent spaces are literally the only spaces ive been able to find at least that arent overrun by nondysphoric (cis) people so while yeah i think “if you do xyz youre faketrans” is stupid, keeping out genuine actual fake trans people is reasonable.
96 upvotes damn…
4tranners are fine, if you call glegle by she you can even get corrected lol
4tran adjacent spaces will never be transmedicalist. these are the most pro diy spaces on the internet. something i know is very much looked down upon is using transmedicalist as a vague boogeyman word.
i personally dont think non binary dysphoria is a real thing or that non binary as a concept is real and that its just a cope for people with less severe but still binary dysphoria :/
Yea I’m sure the most complex organ on this planet is completely binary. You really think Neurosex (or whatever people call it) can only be on or the other? That its not possible my brain/neurosex is neither fully male nor female?
having a brain with traits of both sexes wouldn’t constitute an entirely new sex though imo
if true non binary dysphoria did exist it would likely be insanely rare and also probably hell for anyone who has it since there isn’t a widely accepted third gender socially. and no third sex to have charictaristics of.
i’m not a neurologist though so idk about the brain side of things so maybe i shouldnt talk on that point :P
yea, its almost like we are rare. and yes, it is fucking hell??? Are u ragebaiting? im just gonna assume u are
my favorite part about having autism is sharing vaguely unpopular stances on things but being bad at articulating it and bveing accused of ragebaiting.
genuine question though about the neurosex side of it. why would the human brain evolve features to control parts of the body that arent male or female. as in, third sex parts for a third sex that doesnt exist. i dont mean like legs that both sexes have.
i dont doubt that intersex brains exist that have both male and female components but we’re talking about non binary, as in neither male nor female. not both male and female.
01100110 01100001 01100111 01100111 01101111 01110100
this string of numbers is binary. yes it contains 1s and 0s but it is still binary. non binary implies containing something else that is not a 1 or a 0. not simply something that contains both.
My brain probably has male and female characteristics. Which makes it impossible for me to be happy/not dysphoric in a fully male or fully female body. I’m not sure what your argument really is. It does not make sense to consider me a woman or a man. Idc if you want to call me a weird mix of both or neither or whatever the fuck. and yes i fucking despise living in a body thats always kind of ‘gendered’ in one way or another. I hate it so much. you can look at one of my old posts where u can read that i hate being nb
then the title non binary is a misnomer because by all definitions youre double binary. youre both sides of the binary. there’s no need to get so aggressive about it though
i would like to point out that i have known several non binary copers who have said practically the same things as you and kept that up for a while before dropping it and being a binary transsex person. so maybe my perception is skewed towaards assuming everyone who talks like this would be like they all were
Are you retarded?
idk which part of my comment this is in response to this is too vague to give a good reply im sorry :(
