Here’s a picture of somebody who kinda looks like me. Below you will find calcifications/corrections with regards to my actual facial appearance:

  • My skin tone is more fair (Fritzpatrick 3-4)

  • My hair is more wavy and frizzy (worse)

  • My face and nose is less in width

  • My midface is a little longer

  • My jaw is stronger by A Lot!

  • My ears are bigger than his

  • My nose is a little less hooked

  • My nostrils aren’t as flared

  • My lips are smaller than his

  • My teeth are not all straight

  • I have visible beard shadow

  • I am definelty older than him

  • I am skinner (fet distribution)

  • I don’t give of chuddy vibes

Now here are my body measurements:

  • Height 173cm (bad posture)

  • Weight 58kg (low body fat%)

  • Shoe size 42 (european men’s)

  • Bideltoid width 44cm

  • Shoulder circumference 96cm

  • Ribcage circumference (sternum level) 78cm

  • Waist circumference (umbilical level) 74cm

  • Waist circumference (above umbilical) 71cm

  • Full hip circumference (widest point) 83cm

< Rotated ribcage (uneven, not level, see image) >

Please give me advise on what I should do now. What are my chances of passing? Is it over for me?

  • Fuwarei
    2·
    7 days ago

    Where do you make measurements, 3d models like this. I also have wierd ribs like this

    • DysphoriaGirlOP
      1·
      6 days ago

      It was in trendslop. Don’t have the link anymore. Sorry about that.

      • Fuwarei
        2·
        7 days ago

        Thanks. My body is probably more fucked up than yours anyway. So take your HRT. I’m like 181cm 🥀

    • mljemy
      3·
      10 days ago

      also i have no idea wtf the last image is sorry, your body is good for hrt tho and ffs is pretty amazing so

        • mljemy
          2·
          10 days ago

          your upper body is the exact same as mine with measurements (assuming underbust is like 3-6cm smaller idk)

          its your hips that are like 20cm smaller, get on hrt to fix that part

          • DysphoriaGirlOP
            2·
            10 days ago

            But will hip growth even happen if I’m already 20y old and finished puberty?

            • mljemy
              3·
              10 days ago

              Hip rotation might and thats the important one imo, the rest you can compensate with fat.

              Certainly better than starting at 25

      • mljemy
        5·
        10 days ago

        …i dont know what youd want us to analyze sorry… that guys face is pretty masculine but not unfixable, your body seems pretty good especially if you dont delay hip growth any longer

            • Narcissus
              3·
              10 days ago

              huh… why did i think she was older? but yeah def if shes below 25 she 1000 per cent has a chance

        • DysphoriaGirlOP
          2·
          10 days ago

          Idk… aren’t there like people out there who specialize in looksmaxxing and brutal body analysis… that thing… I want that… idk… I’m dumb… I’m sorry.

          • mljemy
            3·
            10 days ago

            I feel like thats more something for longer hrt people, its impossible to know with 100% certainty, especially if youre not willing to post your actual pics (which btw you probably shouldnt unless it would really help) (just dumb to expect me to do clairvoyant magic nonsense to figure it out)

            • DysphoriaGirlOP
              1·
              10 days ago

              I’m sorry… should I post my actual pictures and probably get doxxed since my opsec is really bad 👉👈

              • mljemy
                2·
                10 days ago

                post it to singular ppl you trust instead of publicly, but it wont help your descision making, you should start hrt

                if you send it would just be to satisfy some urge or worry you have, wont change the best “move”

                • DysphoriaGirlOP
                  1·
                  10 days ago

                  But I can’t get rid of that urge and worry. It has stayed with me for almost a year now. It’s killing me

  • FoxyBanned
    9·
    10 days ago

    “Height 173cm” its not over for u at all. ygmi

      • RtHonAlice
        2·
        10 days ago

        My gf’s cis sister is taller than that and very pretty. Stop looking for excuses, there are none. Do it.

          • RtHonAlice
            2·
            10 days ago

            Not really, I experienced lots of it and it still can’t compare to dysphoria. Do it.

            • DysphoriaGirlOP
              1·
              10 days ago

              But I don’t feel the pain of dysphoria. I just feel nothing. And sadness. And discomfort. But not a constant pain of “this is wrong” but rather just a “I feel wrong and bad”

              • RtHonAlice
                3·
                10 days ago

                That is the pain of dysphoria. The emptiness is why many of us cut, to at least feel something. Listen to yourself. You are simply trying to rationalise the abnormal. You already know what’s going on. You even called yourself DysphoriaGirl. That’s not what cissoids do. Take your pills.

                • DysphoriaGirlOP
                  1·
                  10 days ago

                  But idk… like idk… maybe only cissoids exist and they are right and we are all just confused and just need intense therapy…

                  God didn’t want this. I just feel so wrong

  • rank1bedrotter
    9·
    10 days ago

    Didn’t see any of your posts yesterday if you had any but oh well anyways

    Day 3 of asking you to get on e already

  • puppyoomf
    8·
    10 days ago

    here is a picture of someone who doesnt look like me at all

    • DysphoriaGirlOP
      1·
      10 days ago

      Well he does maybe a little, he’s just more ugly… well I am ugly in different ways… he mogs me actually… I’m pretty sure 😭

  • Moid2
    7·
    10 days ago

    Looking for excuses and reasons why it wont work for you is just you delaying it out of fear. Get on estrogen none of us knows what you’ll look like but it’ll be better than this. Delaying it only makes it worse. You aren’t even old.

      • Ya'll_Are_Bots (Tay)
        4·
        10 days ago

        I had a gun,

        I had a location,

        I had a plan,

        I had written my apology notes,

        I had done a will (still have it I guess),

        I had no more hope ,

        I was sure that estrogen was a pipe dream, that it wouldn’t really change anything and that I was really just a worthless piece of shit degenerate…

        But I also went to a clinic, I got a hondose, and even on 2mg tablets + spiro lol

        The static began to clear I felt hope

        But because I had bad doctors I never let my despair rest… I was SURE that this was all just placebo and that I would be right back where I was…

        I went through 3 doctors before I finally found somebody who was legit and treated me like an equal partner in my care [but just DIY if this is not an option the you]

        The first time I did my injection (on 7mg now) I cried for hours , eventually falling asleep in a tear soaked pillow - when I woke up

        I burned the only piece of paper that had the Lat/Long coordinates where I’d buried the gun

        I burned the apology notes,

        And I’ve never looked back since.

        You can do this

        While there is breath in your lungs, there is hope 🫶🏻

        I believe in you

      • Moid2
        3·
        10 days ago

        Thats how it goes yeah. So stop allowing it to get worse.

        • DysphoriaGirlOP
          1·
          10 days ago

          But maybe it’s not bad enough yet? Ughhhhh I’m so mentally ill and dumb

          • Moid2
            3·
            10 days ago

            Why the fuck are you waiting for it to be “bad enough” lol. Fear is hard, I get that, but listen to yourself.

              • Moid2
                3·
                10 days ago

                Thats the hard part, you aren’t going to feel like you deserve things until you like yourself. You arent going to like yourself until youre on hrt. Unfortunately no one here can hold you down and inject it, so you gotta take one for the team and do it yourself. Inject e, go to the gym to get a fat ass, and ygmi

  • Narcissus
    7·
    10 days ago

    as some one who is similarly masculinised and older than most, i simply want to start hrt to minimise the pain because further masculinisation will break me mentally. i dont think too much about passing or measurements or any of it, thats for people who start young or get lucky unfortunately. i just want to not suffer like this.

    • mljemy
      7·
      10 days ago

      yeah thats the correct mentality, this “is it even worth it” shit just leads to john 50s

      i hope you become a passoid though im blessing you with it rn

    • DysphoriaGirlOP
      1·
      10 days ago

      I understand but isn’t not passing also suffering because if I don’t pass why would somebody love me or the world treat me like a human being? Isn’t the pain better than?

      • mljemy
        5·
        10 days ago

        how would you treat someone who doesnt pass from here?

        just in case the answer is “be disgusted and hate them”, then not everyone is as cruel about it as you

        but obvs hoping thats not the case and youd treat them nice in which case your comment is demonstrably false

        • DysphoriaGirlOP
          3·
          10 days ago

          I would treat them nicely but that’s just because I’m a freak too. Isn’t that kind of the consensus here. Don’t we all hate ourselves because we’re trans. Idk. People definitely hate us. And even if they are nice to us, they won’t ever be truly good to us. People can be nice, but that’s not the same as being loved and wanted and truthfully accepted

          • mljemy
            5·
            10 days ago

            hot take: people youre close with matter more than random chud strangers

            and most people here hate themselves for not starting at 13 i think, not just because they’re trans, thats just kinda how they be so, cant do much about it

  • RtHonAlice
    6·
    10 days ago

    I don’t need to read any of that because dysphoria is simple. If you have it, take oestrogen. It really is that simple. Repping is not an option. By repping you either will have a worse starting point or outright rope. Take your pills, Alice.

    • DysphoriaGirlOP
      2·
      10 days ago

      But how do I know I have it? Couldn’t all this simply be mentally illness or dissatisfaction with life. Like I can’t prove dysphoria to myself. I don’t idk scream and cry when looking at the mirror. For me, I just generally feel numb all the time. And ugly and worthless and all that

      • RtHonAlice
        3·
        10 days ago

        But how do I know I have it?

        By thinking about it constantly, just like you are doing right now. That’s a crucial part of it. You don’t just forget it, it’s with you, always. The being numb part is a coping mechanism to deal with it somehow, the screaming and crying will come later with acceptance. And it WILL come. The question is only how long you allowed testosterone to rape your body until it happens because you thought “but mayyybe there’s a way out of this”. There isn’t. You can thank me later.

        • DysphoriaGirlOP
          1·
          10 days ago

          But if I accept it I’ll suffer and be hurt… My family will hurt, people will hurt me. I am not strong enough for all of this

          • RtHonAlice
            3·
            10 days ago

            Boymoding is a possibility. I’m doing it too and it is still a LOT better than repping.

            • DysphoriaGirlOP
              1·
              10 days ago

              But I can’t hide it from my family, especially not breast development. And if they find out then I’m literally going to die. I am afraid of that so much!

              • RtHonAlice
                4·
                10 days ago

                Gain some weight and blame the breast development on that. You can lose weight later, you can’t lose bone later. Oestrogen isn’t magic girl juice, the changes are usually subtle. Cissoids are dense and don’t notice the change, especially if they see you every day because it’s very gradual. Cissoids also simply don’t think about tranners constantly. You do. Because you are trans. Which is why you should take your pills.

                Yes, in the long term you should get away from your family, but at the moment preventing further masculinisation is your top priority. If you are hoping for anybody here to tell you your case isn’t clear and you’re faketrans I have bad news for you. Nobody will because it is an obvious case. Do it.

                • rank1bedrotter
                  2·
                  10 days ago

                  This, also worst case you can just wear like a binder or something I guess.

                • DysphoriaGirlOP
                  1·
                  10 days ago

                  But they already know I’m queer and my mom already suspects I am trans because stupid as I am I talked about how I hate my body and voice and now I am even more afraid. I already had to run away ones when they outed me as bisexual. This time it can only end up being so much worse

  • Ya'll_Are_Bots (Tay)
    6·
    10 days ago

    Oh dear,

    Whether or not you think Ygmi

    Repping is not an option

    The way I see it, is that we have two options as Tranny’s really… we transition and work to build our defenses against the very real external pain the world may inflict upon us,

    Or we suffer the internal pain of dysphoria that nothing can protect us from, I promise you it never goes away and in fact, it only gets louder and more discordant, forever rising to a crescendo that ends in transitioning later or… finding ourself beyond the one-way slip of TheVeil…

    And you deserve happiness, and with dysphoria, sure you can feel happiness, but it’s always behind that static of dysphoria,

    You deserve true happiness, you deserve life

    Love 🫶🏻

      • snoothon_possoid
        3·
        10 days ago

        Face pre-hrt isn’t a good indicator on whether you will pass or not, especially if you aren’t showing it. Plus, beard shadow is pretty much removable.

        On the body part, 5’9 is taller than average cis woman but not tall at all, bideltoid isn’t cooked and will probably get smaller due to muscle loss (from my experience), ribcage is pretty normal, you have waist and your hips are pretty good for your weight, which means they’ll probably be better than most on hrt, so potentially you’ll have really good proportions.

        • DysphoriaGirlOP
          1·
          10 days ago

          But I have rotated fucked up upper body and back pain and I’m afraid boobs will grow weird because of it. Also I’m already a skelton and my nose is big… I look like a ratface from the front and like phineas from phineas and Ferb from the side. I’m le cooked completely 😭

            • DysphoriaGirlOP
              1·
              10 days ago

              But how do I do it… how do I actually do it and just take the leap and start with HRT? I feel like I can’t stop repping

              • rank1bedrotter
                3·
                10 days ago

                Just buy your vials and stuff and take it once. By that point you won’t want to go back

                • DysphoriaGirlOP
                  1·
                  10 days ago

                  I think I’d get a panic attack though. Like I would just be so utterly afraid of it all. Also I can just idk numb away my days and then won’t need to actually worry about life.

  • Math_troon
    4·
    10 days ago

    Idk about allat but our first 4 body measurements are twinning so you better be making it fr

    (Idk my circumference measurements lol)

    • DysphoriaGirlOP
      1·
      10 days ago

      Math-troon… can you do math magic on my measurements please. If somebody can do it, you can. Please do some math magic on them, okay?

        • DysphoriaGirlOP
          1·
          10 days ago

          But idk maybe I’m dumb… somebody else should take my measurements. Thank you. I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to be mean to you or mog you. I’m sure you’re so much prettier than me. Idk. I just… I’m sorry. I feel so terrible :(

          • rank1bedrotter
            2·
            10 days ago

            I mean I also suck at taking measurements. I don’t think anyone here is quoting their measurements exactly, but just a rough estimate. Like, who the hell owns a caliper? And also measuring yourself inherently changes your posture and therefore offsets your measurements too. Ygmi, just get on e already.

  • Irahna
    3·
    10 days ago

    You made an error with your question. Here’s what it should have been: “Jon50 or give hope a shot?”

  • DysphoriaGirlOP
    3·
    10 days ago

    I’m sorry everybody that I’m so retarded. Thank you all. I’m just struggling a lot