I may be too woke but I think being a trans man who owns a stuffed animal or has a fashion sense outside of t-shirts, hoodies and jeans doesn’t make you a hefab. Also, I think it’s possible for a trans man to date a bishit cismoid who geniuely does see him as a man. In fairness I’m close friends with a bi cis man who is genuinely very trans positive (how the fuck do you say not weird about trannies in a way that sounds normal?) so I’m probably biased.
I also saw one post that got mad at pooners calling themselves guys instead of men. Not like, only calling themselves guy and never men, but just referring to themselves in posts as " a trans guy". I get disliking when we call ourselves boys, but guys is too feminine now? Fuck off.
tbh i agree. tho with the bicismoid one it approaches a line. 9/10 bicismoids will see trans men as women
ok it doesnt “approach” in a rigorous sense but it gets within a certain neighborhood of a line
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There’s probably a good amount that do, but I feel like telling every trans man dating a bicis guy that his boyfriend definitely sees him a woman is kind of fucked. Which i have seen people do on 4tran4.
Tbh I’m just particularly nice to bi men because most of the ones I know irl are geniuely really great people, even the cis ones, and I feel bad when they get thrown under the bus. Bisexual men like men, only a straight guy would be upset about their trans boyfriend becoming more masculine on t.
idk ive never had good experiences with men. the guy who groomed me was bisexual and with him and many others there seems to be a large subset of bi men where theyre the ‘women and femboys’ kind of bi
like i feel like its kidn of dangerous to take them at their word
for sure
That’s mostly an online thing. The femboy part I mean. Irl most bi men just find men and women attractive.
As for the groomed thing, yeah, that does suck ass so I see why you’d be wary.
brother you should get a test done because you may well have been infected by the sneedvirus
Aw shit i thought I was vaccinated.
For real though, I’m pretty extroverted irl so I get out a lot and meet a lot of people, and I’ve got a bad habit of trying to see the best in others. I’ve been let down a lot but I’ve also seen that a lot of the worst stereotypes we tend to have are usually rooted in confirmation bias. My best friend is a bicismoid who grew up in a ridiculously homophobic house. As in, if he came out, he likely would have gotten his ass beat. I used to be one of the types to think bi men were all chasers too, but he made me realize that was just because that’s all I had been exposed to. Super rough childhood, been put through the ringer, but he never compared his own struggles to having gender dysphoria and I’ve never heard anything transphobic from him.
I might be sneedy, blame the autism for that.
dude, no. dont blame the autism for that. im glad your friend is chill but that doesnt prove anything about the millions of other non-chill men and i think its at least as much confirmation bias to say that it does as it is for people who have been abused by those types to tell others to watch out for them. also, i dont think it being “just an online thing” really means anything? people get groomed online all the time
Also. This is fully because i am retarded but I only just now learned that sneed isn’t shorthand for special needs and is more meant to mean condescending. Which yeah I kind of was being. Sorry. I’ll lurking more I’m still getting the hang of shit
idek where to start please get it together lol
I’ll try
telling people you cant have a stuffed animal and be trans yeah thats childish and irrelevant but telling them that people especially men are likely to try to take advantage of them, even the ones that pretend they dont, is not “kind of fucked”, its for our safety and wellbeing. people are overdramatic about that stuff (you see it on the board a lot with trannies specifically) but you are way too worried about that and way not worried enough about the actual men doing the abuse who get away with it because of this type of rhetoric
I more meant it was fucked to tell every gayden dating a cisbi that he sees them as women without knowing their dynamic personally but yeah I see your point. I do think it’s something to look out for when starting a relationship to really evaluate if they really are bi and will treat you right. I was only trying to say that it’s fucked assume that was the case 100% of the time but I’m awful at getting my thoughts across
I didn’t mean the grooming thing when I said that, I meant the “I like women and femboy ls” thing is mostly an online phenomena. But yeah I worded that poorly.
Also yeah, be wary of men totally. My point was that being bi shouldn’t be seen as a red flag by itself but I’m a dumbass so also ignore me and just go by your gut.
no, i understood what you meant. what im saying is that just because the guys who say “i like women and femboys” only say that online, it doesnt mean they dont exist and dont hurt people
I’m sorry for being so sneedy, I’m likely too optimistic about others for my own good. Again, use your own discretion when judging someone, you almost definitely know better than I do.
Oh yeah they totally do, I completely agree there. They’re a loud, annoying minority but they are out there
you are picking up on the fact that the sub has gone past being critical of mainstream transness into just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian
Contractions might be some of my least favorite types of people tbh.
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Kids are dumbasses, hopefully they do get smarter with age.
you feel this way and i feel this way because you and i are somehow more normal than true 4tran4 dudes and not so batshit rabid about anything remotely ‘womanly’ that it turns into clad-iron misogyny. its pretty much trans men inventing our own brand toxic masculinity just to feel guy enough and to overcompensate for being a ‘cucked male’ (i saw someone say that haha).
i dont care dude, i maintain that normal adjusted cismoids arent insane this way and we should be emulating that instead, and i’d rather be a woke tenderqueer sensitive fag than lose my mind over a paltry shade of pink. big beefy manly men can be gentle, kind, fashionable, friendly, polite, sensitive, health-minded, and respectful to women.
this is what gets on My nerve from this variety of dood, personally: real men can take SHOWERS and use something besides 3in1! ‘being stinky makes me feel manly’ wash your culo!
Nice to see someone agrees.
