Only thing that feels real is bottom dysphoria and body/facial hair tbh everything else I feel like I might’ve been like socially conditioned into or whatever

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    thats because everything besides physical sex characteristics is socially conditioned. but it being a social construct doesnt mean it doesnt have material impact still

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      I mean yeah but like do I even want like tits or whatever or is it just me coping cause it’d be easier to get srs on estrogen

      And then there’s the question of whether it’s just me being agp

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        You are likely not to be AGP. As even if AGP was a real thing you don’t have particular attraction to one sexual aspect. Also even so that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have the means to transition.

        The parts which are solid is that you have some dysphoria which is likely to improve with E

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          you don’t have particular attraction to one sexual aspect

          Wdym by this?

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          I literally am AGP. Not saying being agp and trans is mutually exclusive, but I am the former for sure and only maybe the latter and if not then some nb thing.

          The question is just whether I actually have dysphoria over particular features or not, cause I never really felt any dysphoria over, say, a flat chest past “I’m supposed to try to look like a woman (for aforementioned reasons) so I should want breasts” and the only positive feedback seems to just be agp.

          Both of the above reasons basically leading to rogd over my chest (?)

          Also how is e meant to improve bottom and body/facial hair dysphoria any more than a lone t blocker would

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            And so? Why shouldn’t you take the societal conditions to get the preferable outcomes for you. If the modification you want is restricted behind a particular presentation, but you know that it’ll benefit you go get it

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              Yeah but what if, say, having tits would make me dysphoric?

              I don’t have any actual precedent for small chest dysphoria so it follows that there’s a possibility I could end up dysphoric over a large chest

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                I suppose it’s one of those things which you may have to take the risk (sadly). I also guess that if you do develop that then you can seek to undo it (if your country permits) in part or get a reduction.

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                  I guess. Idk I guess I’m just contemplating whether I should like stop e but just stay on decapetyl or something. Maybe tone down on the brainworming. Idk

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    Assuming ROGD is even a thing, maybe it would help to think back to where you experienced the dysphoria independent of any social media influencing it.

    So for instance I always hated and despised my brow bone, but I didn’t quite understand why until I started questioning. My disgust over my brow bone got worse after, which could make me think it’s ROGD, but it kinda makes sense that as you gain awareness of your dysphoria your disgust would grow now that there is a reason attached to it. (This is assuming hating your browbone isn’t just a normal moid thought).

    I definitely relate to the ROGD issue and it makes me feel faketrans because I didn’t really have much dysphoria until I started questioning and getting into 4t4. I really only had bouts of vague annoyance/discomfort with my genitals, hatred of my browbone, wishing for bigger butt/hips, and a general dislike of my body. Aside from agp, that’s pretty much it. Even something like body hair I didn’t really seem to have a problem with until questioning I was trans where it became a horror that I now endure much pain to remove.

    I don’t really know the answer. I still think there’s some chance I’m faketrans and I’ll get reverse dysphoria in the future, but for now I’m treating my dysphoria at face value and trusting my instincts.

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      Yeah that’s kinda why I’m thinking the only thing I want is no body/facial hair and to get srs or like nullification or something. Those were my only two things I disliked about being a man I think (socially they’re weird but whatever. I don’t really understand anyone tbh I’m just talking physical stuff)

      Like if I could just basically be a dickless twink I wouldn’t mind existing tbh