Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID), or Body Integrity Dysphoria, is a rare psychological condition characterized by an intense, lifelong desire to become physically disabled (e.g., amputee, paraplegic) because of a belief that a specific body part does not belong. Symptoms include severe distress, acting as if disabled, and risks of self-harm, often stemming from a discrepancy between the brain’s body map and physical reality.

I’ve recently stumbled upon such disorder’s existance, and in some ways it seems similar to gender dysphoria. It supposedly cannot be cured by therapy nor anti depressants. The way it manifests is really similar to how GD does, so I’m curious if it stems from similar malfunctions in different regions of the brain on a biological basis.

I’ve also recently saw some online comments under a video about BIID, and the way that people reacted were similar to how transphobes or cissoids do. I feel like it gives a perspective on how cissoids might perceive us. Probably not literally in the same way, but coming from the same background of lack of understanding. They literally cannot understand what they didn’t experience, just like we can’t understand BIID in the way BIID people do.

Sorry if too off topic from trans issues, or too truscum, but I want some actual discussion here. Not a troll post.

  • MsYashM
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    6 days ago

    there is a reason, you made a post about people who would be right wing if they weren’t trans, aren’t you the same? you don’t understand what they’re going through and just decide that they must be delusional and harming themselves for no reason

    • Loose_Sandwich9217
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      6 days ago

      I mean, I don’t doubt they’re distressed but I don’t think distress is enough to make someone perminently disabled and unable to function, you just have to manage the distress

      Do you think we should let anorexics starve themselves to death too?

      • MsYashM
        2·
        6 days ago

        yea but there’s no way to manage distress over body parts

        • Loose_Sandwich9217
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          6 days ago

          There’s ways to manage distress over like anything that’s just how distress works

          Also again do you think we should let anorexics starve themselves?

          • MsYashM
            2·
            6 days ago

            anorexics can get better but not people with biid neither can trans people be ok with their wrong bory, there’s been 0 cases of people with biid getting better, it’s the same with dysphoria, conversion therapy or distress management or ssris or antipsychotic or whatever won’t work, did you read the wikipedia article about biid?

            • Loose_Sandwich9217
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              6 days ago

              I mean I don’t think they’ll “get better” I think distress management is a better solution than making someone a perminently disabled and incapable of functioning

              Also anorexia is treatable yes but that doesn’t mean everyone can get better. Sometimes treatment just isn’t effective. As I said in my other comment courts have literally allowed anorexics to starve themselves before because treatment was futile and they were “utterly defeated by the condition”, to quote the judge in one case.

              • MsYashM
                1·
                6 days ago

                yea what does distress management mean here, what practical solution are you telling them to consider? dbt skills? ssris? antipsychotics? suicide? youre saying the term distress management but that’s quite vague, and i doubt you have some solution that nobody has considered yet

                also you’re saying that the person can function while having the leg and that amputating is will make them no longer able to function, but that’s not true, they are functional in the same way a repper is functional, and without treatment will try to amputate the limb by themselves, some people have amputated their body parts bc doctors wouldn’t do it and their biid was fixed, nothing except amputation has worked so far, and in the few cases im which amputation was tried, their biid was fixed

                • Loose_Sandwich9217
                  1·
                  6 days ago

                  Yeah like all those things, it’s not a "solution’ it’s management

                  Also reppers literally are functional??? They’re just mentally ill (and have treatment that doesn’t render them unable to function)

                  Also not all of them try to do it themselves in the same way that not all trans people try to do diy orchis

                  • MsYashM
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                    6 days ago

                    i mean im talking about the equivalent of people who would do a diy orchi, but even those who wouldn’t don’t deserve to suffer

          • FuwareiOP
            1·
            6 days ago

            So we can rep? Why don’t we rep yet? Why does John 50 exist when we can rep?

            • Loose_Sandwich9217
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              6 days ago

              I mean you can rep but why would you when transition exists and that’s a better solution

              • FuwareiOP
                1·
                6 days ago

                Valid point. But you could say the same about them, cause their treatment will not negatively affect them in their subjective experience.

                • Loose_Sandwich9217
                  1·
                  6 days ago

                  It will in the objectively. How easy do you think it is to get a job with one leg? They objectively wouldn’t be able to function normally in society ever again

                  • FuwareiOP
                    1·
                    6 days ago

                    Then should you follow what cissoids think about your dysphoria objectively? All that matters for distress is the subjective experience. Such people would have to either work remote or get support for disabled people.

      • FuwareiOP
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        6 days ago

        But anorexia can be cured just like bdd. BIID on the other hand can not.

        • Loose_Sandwich9217
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          6 days ago

          Anorexia is treatable, there isn’t a “cure” per say. Courts have literally let people starve themselves before because they thought treatment was futile, which is why I ask.

          • FuwareiOP
            1·
            6 days ago

            So it is treatable in some cases and not in others? Well than I think we should offer assisted euthanasia or experimental cosmetic surgeries to those who do not benefit from lifelong therapy and can not be alleviated from their pain. Our priority should be being able to understand the brain and prevent such malfunctions in the first place. That’d mean the end of trannies tho.