Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID), or Body Integrity Dysphoria, is a rare psychological condition characterized by an intense, lifelong desire to become physically disabled (e.g., amputee, paraplegic) because of a belief that a specific body part does not belong. Symptoms include severe distress, acting as if disabled, and risks of self-harm, often stemming from a discrepancy between the brain’s body map and physical reality.

I’ve recently stumbled upon such disorder’s existance, and in some ways it seems similar to gender dysphoria. It supposedly cannot be cured by therapy nor anti depressants. The way it manifests is really similar to how GD does, so I’m curious if it stems from similar malfunctions in different regions of the brain on a biological basis.

I’ve also recently saw some online comments under a video about BIID, and the way that people reacted were similar to how transphobes or cissoids do. I feel like it gives a perspective on how cissoids might perceive us. Probably not literally in the same way, but coming from the same background of lack of understanding. They literally cannot understand what they didn’t experience, just like we can’t understand BIID in the way BIID people do.

Sorry if too off topic from trans issues, or too truscum, but I want some actual discussion here. Not a troll post.

  • Loose_Sandwich9217
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    11 days ago

    It will in the objectively. How easy do you think it is to get a job with one leg? They objectively wouldn’t be able to function normally in society ever again

    • FuwareiOP
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      11 days ago

      Then should you follow what cissoids think about your dysphoria objectively? All that matters for distress is the subjective experience. Such people would have to either work remote or get support for disabled people.

      • Loose_Sandwich9217
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        11 days ago

        No because they’re wrong and transition doesn’t impede my ability to live whatsoever? What they “think” isn’t the same as someone measurably losing their job and ability to function normally

        Such people would have to either work remote or get support for disabled people

        Outlandishly idealistic perspective kinda, they’d at best end up on disability and be able to live off that or at worst end up homeless

        • FuwareiOP
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          11 days ago

          But as I said distress is subjective, and you can measure those signs of distress objectively based on what the person is reporting. If the person objectively reports that they’re happier after such modifications, it is justified.

          This is literally the same way we justify SRS surgeries. With a large enough data pool we can objectively know that such procedure is positive.

          • Loose_Sandwich9217
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            11 days ago

            Basically everyone would be objectively happier if they took heroin but that doesn’t mean we should give them it

            Also even if srs didn’t make people objectively happier I’d still support it’s existence

            • FuwareiOP
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              11 days ago

              No because heroin and drugs have drawbacks. Our bodies get used to them. If they didn’t, humanity would have already been plugged to it. But I also think that happiness may not necessarily be the only goal of morality. What about morality, which is based on the fact that someone is okay with something? Example, they’re okay being sad but also okay being happy.

                • FuwareiOP
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                  11 days ago

                  Heroin gets you addicted, accustomed to it and gives you painful withdrawals. Cutting a limb off in a controlled manner will eliminate your extreme mental anguish, a dysphoria which leads people to doing it on their own. The drawbacks are only societal and in functioning as a human, but those individuals may be much more content with their life existence.

                  Ironic that it sounds like an exaggerated description of troon life. Remember, if you ever want to know how it feels for a cissoid to deny your transness, remember this moment and how you’ve felt towards BIID individuals. That is literally what cissoids are feeling but in a lesser extent.

                  • Loose_Sandwich9217
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                    11 days ago

                    Do you think not being able to hold a job or potentially even do basic tasks is only a “societal” drawback??? Do you ever wonder why the homeless are vastly more likely to be disabled? Do you ever wonder why they have a lower life expectancy? Lmao what

                    Hypothetically if heroin didn’t wear off would you be pro heroin use??

                    That is literally what cissoids are feeling but in a lesser extent.

                    TRANSITION ISNT THE SAME AS CHOPPING OF A LIMB AHHHHH, I feel like im losing my mind how do you not see thst those things aren’t the same thing? And the cissoids are wrong because transition literally causes no harm whatsoever? Like that’s literally why they’re wrong???