Blanchard is genuinely bigoted and retarded
he looks so funny to me
because blanchardists are white and this kind of thinking appeals to the caucus race
trvke i’m afraid
I think his typology is overly simplistic, and that he has way too much confidence in how universalizable and rock-solid his theories are when applied to the transsexual population generally. I think AGP and HSTS absolutely are transition-motivation-profiles that exist and apply to many people. I just also think it’s possible to be trans without fitting into either category, or while borrowing motivations from both categories, and/or that it’s possible to have some motivations for transition that exist outside the paradigm of AGP/HSTS entirely that may or may not co-occur with AGP/HSTS (such as people with neurologically-sourced autoandrophobia that’d be there with or without one’s AGP, meaning transition would be a good idea regardless, and I’d consider myself in this camp).
I also think a lot of cis women are legitimately unironically AGP as fuck, but the sexological retardation of his time around paraphilia’s being a “male sexuality” thing blinds Blanchard to this fact. Like I’ve met women that are basically meta-attracted sissies who are natally female, but it’s treated as value-neutral by Orthodox Blanchardians because they’re cisoid women, but I don’t overlook crippling AGP for what it is just because they got a womb. I’m woke like that.
So I have some “Blanchardian” ideas but I’m no Blanchardian. Kinda like how I have some “transmed” ideas but I’m no transmed. Doctrinaire thinking is boring anyhow. And besides, like it or not, Blanchard is genuinely more accepting of trans people than like most cisoids so 🤷♀️ not saying he’ll be spared TCD or anything but he’s not first priority
The thing is that in science you cant take terminology and descriptors out of context. The context itself is inherently transphobic. I dont think denying that trans women are women is accepting. That’s not acceptance. Otherwise agree, but I have no idea how would you distance those descriptors from him
If accepting that trans women are women is acceptance, then a good chunk of trans women are not accepting of trans women. A good chunk of trans people who came to see trans people as their target-sex only came to see trans people as such because they have first-hand experience with the affliction AND their ego is involved, and that’s assuming they even get that far, and many don’t. Cis people have even less involvement, so I have almost zero expectation to ever be seen as anything but my natal sex by any of them unless I’m 110% cis passing and deep-deep stealth, and I struggle to see this ever changing. What I see as realistic is attitudes towards transitioning changing, knowledge of dysphoria expanding, etc. Redefining sex on a society-wide level in a way that centers things like your endocrine system and secondary sexual characteristics would be real nice, but I’m not holding my breath.
There is a reason you’ll see heavily dysphoric tranners in 4tran spaces joking about how t4t is hard because “keeping the delusions up for myself is already hard enough, doing that for two people is even harder”, and so on. Even when afflicted by the condition, for many, believing that trans people ACTUALLY are who they say they are is hard, and may never come even years after legally changing name and sex marker and having srs, etc etc etc. So in my book, when a cisoid says something like what Blanchard said once, which was something to the tune of “whether trans women are truly women is a semantical question, what we need to be asking ourselves is if somebodies life would be improved from transition”, I honestly do take that as a step-up from my baseline expectation with cisoids. It’s not perfect, it’s not ideal, but fuck, it’s more credence and grace than I afford to myself on bad days if I’m being completely honest.
I do see tranners as their target-sex, for the record, unless I’m talking about myself, but I digress.
I think using the terms in a way that’d be unorthodox to use in an Orthodox Blanchardian context is conducive to eventually distancing the concepts from the worst of him, tbh. Like calling cis women AGP is inherently heretical to the theory and communicates revisionism’s and distance from the source material on it’s own. You can tell how seriously somebody adheres to Blanchards ownership of these terms by how insistent they are on adhering to his standards.
Almost no one I’ve seen calls cis women agp. Just as very few who call pretty passoids agp. Also whether trans women are women isn’t semantics at all. Imagine a state. State has limited resources and so only has two cells for 3 new prisoners. 1st is a young terf cis woman, 2nd is a twinkhon with e cups and a bubbly butt. 3rd is a violent serial rapist 2 m jacked man. What would be the logic of that state? If the twinkhon is a man then she is to be placed with the rapist…
I mean I get this is all anecdotal and all that, but I’ve talked and joked plenty about agp cis women in 4tran spaces and seen it in others unprompted lol.
I honestly don’t think non-violent-offender/non-sexual-offender men who can be construed as notably effeminate or weak should be placed in general population prisons with men who fit violent and sexually violent categories of offense, period. I also don’t think males, like actual cis males / testosteronized men, who could reasonably be considered prime rape-bait in jail, should be placed with the rapist man. If prisons are to exist at all, and they shouldn’t, high-T rapist beefcakes with a history of things like violence and sex-crimes should be paired together. Things like muscle / weight-class / overall strength and criminal history should take absolute precedence here, even over sex, altho sex will obviously contribute to these things notably.
I think these kinds of questions leaves out the fact that a low-T femboy or androgen insensitive male being put in the same situation would literally be just about as horrific, and wouldn’t stop being inherently unfair because he’s on T or is actually a guy and identifies as a guy or whatnot. The trans woman shouldn’t be excluded from the rapist cell with the reasoning being that she’s actually a woman. Even in a world where she is technically a man in a purely semantically legal sense, even in a world where we’re basically all seen as vxlid hrt femboys, it makes far more sense to have a specialized cell and ward for people like her, or to just put her in the female prison if post-srs. In other words, if you replace that twinkhon with an androgen insensitive man who identifies as a man and lives as a weak effeminate man, he should probably go with the terf, if those are the only real options. It’s not about sex but risk factors imo.
This example wasnt to argue that this is a perfect solution of course. Its to argue that semantics do matter. A lot. Blanchard dismissing this is not only myopic and transphobic but actually dangerous! In some situations, its literally the difference between chilling and being raped to death. Its not binary of course, and the situation is far from perfect. But I took extremes just to illustrate my point. Its a sliding scale of risk. What if a rapist is weak? what if a femboy is a rapist? What if a woman is rapist? What are risk group criteria? And the more categories and criteria you introduce, the more resource intensive and prone to corruption the incarceration becomes. Any state would try and minimize the expenses, so you either get segregated by sex or height or muscle mass or by being an sex offender. But even the last category can get someone raped because cis women and weak men can be rapists too. And that is everywhere. Take the toilets question, segregation in groups, gyms and so on. Every time you see those this person who is so called AGP will be discriminated and feel from bad to suicidal
Very good point
I don’t actually disagree. Prison’s are fucked and there is no good answer besides doing something else entirely, quite frankly. I just feel like an odd thing about this whole prompt is that there’s no world I can envision where, say, a dissociated repper version of myself who still lives as a visibly queer man and never trooned or realized they were dysphoric wouldn’t still get raped to death in a men’s prison and be just as undeserving of it. Dividing prisons purely by endocrine systems could potentially save the version of myself that figured things out, but I see no justice for pre-troon me.
Trans women shouldn’t be in men’s prisons, but more pressingly, if you’re feminine with a penis and got locked up for some crime, the punishment shouldn’t be total rape and annihilation as it is currently, which I see as just as pressing a concern.
True… absolutely true… he is a massive transphobe who is well connected to conversion therapy bullshit people
Absolutely based answer
he’s literally gay and actually retarded
he’s literally fake and gay
Because it fuels my self loathing
what do you loathe, your body or yourself?
both, but moreso body
Everything about me
Only true answer
i think it’s more people on reddit 4t4 that genuinely believe it you should probably ask it there
i dont do reddit
because autogynephillic man with meta atrtraction perfectly describes what wrong with me.
Oh the legend herself! Haii
Himself. haii lmao
I have agp so it’s kinda hard not to
you are aroused by imagining yourself having a vagina?
I mean that’s not really what agp is
I’m attracted to myself as a woman it’s not nessisarily an arousal thing in the same way that I’m not aroused every time I see my girlfriend
every time I look up wtf is agp is its some sort of bs instead of a normal definition. yeah you are attracted to yourself as a woman. Blanchard argues that doesn’t mean you are one. Instead he makes a special category a “weird faggot” category to deny that our experiences and emotions could actually mean something (that you are a fucking woman)
the meaning of agp has been shifted and redefined so much, mostly to expand it to include every person who’s ever felt dysphoria, and if you ever manage to corner an r/askagp chump and press them for a definition you’ll get something pretty close to “agp is just wanting to be a woman” and if you ask them why they don’t just say that instead you’re probably not getting an answer.
I think now that everyone who believes in Blanchard is just hella repressed (xcept cissoids and\or grifters ofc)
I mean tbf blanchard didn’t really argue that it was more implied, he doesn’t gaf what you “are”
Also I’m not a woman but that’s a me thing
