If you have some really luckshit features, but objectively don’t pass you’re not larping being a hon unless you’re complaining about those features being bad. This is especially true if you’re one of the unsavable kinds of hon (where like surgery doesn’t even exist). Idk like I can see that people are BDD over things they shouldn’t be, but its not honlarping unless you objectively just pass to 90% of strangers and are still calling yourself a neverpasser or something.

  • CutePlushiesOP
    4·
    2 days ago

    My idea of what a hon must be has also changed a lot, like the bar you must cross to be a woman nowadays in cis society is probably too high for many of us to truly cross it anymore so being a hon is kinda relative as is.

    • Wandering
      3·
      2 days ago

      my idea of “hon” before this go around with 4t spaces was basically only reserved for what we might call boomerhons now, or like, really unfortunate neverpassers. some people here interpret it as anything less cis/giga youngshit is a hon which I don’t really agree with (I fall into this category as a non-gigapassoid and I don’t like it!!!)

      I feel like to be a hon, you have to get misgendered at least sometimes. if it was actually pity passing and one is a hon, somebody would absolutely slip up occasionally. otherwise you’re just some flavor of passoid.

      • CutePlushiesOP
        1·
        2 days ago

        My idea of “hon” is and always will be someone who does not pass. I simply think the bar you need to reach to pass has gotten near impossible so it’s kinda pointless to assume most trannies can pass nowadays. You need to be essentially perfect or very short with only a couple very small flaws.

        Most hons aren’t abject ugly either, especially twinkhons etc.

        • Wandering
          2·
          2 days ago

          hmm I see. yeah the bar for passing is undoubtedly higher now, to the point cis women get transvestigated. at a certain point people’s ability to clock is so warped it starts losing meaning to me.

          also a strict hon/pass label doesn’t really include much room for nuance, and as much as people don’t want to admit it, there’s some degree of subjectivity to it also.

      • pleasantaftertastes
        2·
        2 days ago

        You aren’t a honlarper, though really once you get VFS you’re probably golden. it’s a shame the wait is so long.

  • Ember
    2·
    2 days ago

    very true and correct, honlarper has become “good measurements”

  • Cambion
    1·
    2 days ago

    4tran4 has fallen to woke agenda, this is over. 😔