Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID), or Body Integrity Dysphoria, is a rare psychological condition characterized by an intense, lifelong desire to become physically disabled (e.g., amputee, paraplegic) because of a belief that a specific body part does not belong. Symptoms include severe distress, acting as if disabled, and risks of self-harm, often stemming from a discrepancy between the brain’s body map and physical reality.

I’ve recently stumbled upon such disorder’s existance, and in some ways it seems similar to gender dysphoria. It supposedly cannot be cured by therapy nor anti depressants. The way it manifests is really similar to how GD does, so I’m curious if it stems from similar malfunctions in different regions of the brain on a biological basis.

I’ve also recently saw some online comments under a video about BIID, and the way that people reacted were similar to how transphobes or cissoids do. I feel like it gives a perspective on how cissoids might perceive us. Probably not literally in the same way, but coming from the same background of lack of understanding. They literally cannot understand what they didn’t experience, just like we can’t understand BIID in the way BIID people do.

Sorry if too off topic from trans issues, or too truscum, but I want some actual discussion here. Not a troll post.

  • FuwareiOP
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    What kind of morality do you think is the best? We should be able to quantify what is arbitrary. We should convert the morality of every human on the earth into an average morality to demonstrate of how humanity is wired to function biologically. Problems would start if that morality excluded not following it exclusively.

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      I think grand moral theories are stupid in general tbqh, morals aren’t objective and are shaped by the society we live in and the mode of production. Pretending you can “solve” morality via applying some grand theory like utilitarianism or deontology is bourgeois nonense

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        Yeah that’s what I think too. But how do we make something arbitrary empirical? We need axioms in a system just like in math.

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          Morals are not objective, but we can objectively measure them based on output from other humans. Morals are a result of a biological system inner guidelines shaped by their inner life experiences.

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            Morals are a result of a biological system inner guidelines shaped by their inner life experiences

            Yeah… no morals are shaped by the society we live in and the ideology of the ruling class. They’re a product of the economic base of any given society

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              Then do you think a baby raised in a lack of society would see nothing wrong in killing other humans? Why are we scared of blood, why do we feel empathy for others? I feel like those are the intrinsic natural guidelines which we later shape through nurture.

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                I mean, yeah? I don’t think humans inherently think killing other human is wrong? We literally do it all the time

                Empathy and fears of blood are inherent features but they’re also not morals

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                  By saying that morals are not biological you’re denying science.

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                    Social structures are biological and morals are byproducts of social structures, not the same thing tho. Morals change as social structures do

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                  They shape our morals. Why do you think morals of completely different tribes across humanity have some similarities in them?

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                    They operate under the same mode of production and class structure, why do you think morals have changed as class society has so drastically?

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              That is okay, there’s no correct philosophy. But when it comes to philosophy I’m a super hard materialist and believe in nihilism (I like existentialism as a response), so it is understandable that my views are going to be based on that.