well, firstly, i hate all biological determinism. i thinks mostly bs. theres somethings obviously that are genetic, but generally im a very big nurture over nature kind of person.

but more than that, i just hate it out of priciple. because why does it matter? if we arent born with a gendered soul, or the brain of the other sex or whatever else, then why does it matter? does that make the pain of dysphoria less real? does that make the treatment any different? i dont think so.

its like how i hate gays talking about homosexuality in nature. like cool, but it doesnt mean anything. if humans were the only species on the planet to practice homosexual relations, itd still be okay for gay people to exist.

we dont live natural lives, we are so much more complex than that. if someone isnt hurting another person, then thats all that should matter. the ones who hate us, who hate gay people, they dont care about appeals to nature. its just fighting them on their own terf and conceding to their arguments because they’ll never believe anything but their own reactionary world views anyway.

    • UnfortunatelyAlexOP
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      5 days ago

      idk, vaccines, gene editing, glasses, etc. all dont seem very natural. we live in places where its too cold or too hot for us too because of the advent of AC. improvements to water purification, mass industrialized agriculture allowing for population sizes far exceeding what would normally be possible, etc.

        • UnfortunatelyAlexOP
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          5 days ago

          this just feels pedantic but i mean, sure ig? if youre going to define what is natural that broadly then sure, everything is natural. but then the word loses literally all meaning. we arent describing anything then

            • UnfortunatelyAlexOP
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              5 days ago

              but again, then theres no meaningful way to define literally anything. all words and definitions are arbitrary. words dont have 100% factual, unarguable definitions. it just doesnt work that way. we made the words up, we get to define what they represent.

              if something is natural just because it exists in the real world, then the word natural means nothing. the antonym of natural isnt virtual, its artificial. glasses do not occur in nature, they cannot exist without human intervention. bronze literally isnt natural either, its made by combining two different naturally occuring metals. there are no bronze deposits, and even if there were, they wouldnt form as hammers, weapons, hoes, etc.

              theres gradients to all this. humans might not live completely unnatural lives, we still interact with the environment and world around us, but compared to every other species on the planet, our lives are definitely the most artificial.