My head is pretty long and oval, but what is midface in 4tran context exactly? Like the individual parts are fairly proportionate, so I have a big forehead but other parts too. What can ffs fix and what can it not? Is my neck going to shrink on HRT? Can my eye size change? They seem kinda small :(

  • mljemy
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    7 days ago

    what is midface in 4tran context exactly?

    A high Face length/Face width ratio is the thing that most commonly makes people here scream MIDFACEE

    Second thing is long philtrum (which is part of the lower third)

    There is also another way to measure it from eyebrow to lips but noone who isn’t a bit out of the loop uses it imo

    Midface length isn’t sexually dimorphic (though it does correlate with height) The real definition is from bottom of brow to bottom of nose

    • mljemy
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      7 days ago

      Here, a lot of people on 4tran use the measurement on the right, but that’s a bit nonsense since it mixes midface (real) with philtrum, and philtrum is sexually dimorphic, so if you really wanted an accurate measurement of how much to doom you’d just measure that or the lower third instead of muddying the waters.

      Men with short snubby noses and long philtrums would have a “normal” midface by this definiton (but in actually it would be teeny tiny ugly), and they would be incredibly sexually dimorphic

      • FuwareiOP
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        7 days ago

        I’ve checked my width to height facial ratio and it said 1.6 . My nose is long height wise but in proportion to philtrum it is like 3 of them. Philtrum itself around lip height. But midface based in medical standard is around forehead height. Idk if I should doom

        • mljemy
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          7 days ago

          I’m sorry I really can’t properly imagine this, and “it is like 3 of them” really isn’t a scientific measurement… If your upper and mid face are the same length then midface is probably okay.

          also >Philtrum itself around lip height. Doesn’t make any sense, philtrum is above the lips thats what it do?

          If you want you can send an unsee to me but like this comment is pointless to me sorry

          • FuwareiOP
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            7 days ago

            By height I meant length of the philtrum and lip. But I was judging this based on some photo on my phone, might be more accurate in a mirror. I am not sure if I should send a photo, I’m still waiting for HRT to arrive and if I realize my face is unsalvageable even after HRT and ffs it’ll be a ropenuke

            • mljemy
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              7 days ago

              It is incredibly incredibly rare for someone to be unsalvageable with ffs. And yeah I get it sending or even taking photos used to make me wanna slice myself up, I was just offering in case you wanted to.

              Hrt does do a lot, don’t doom too soon :p

              • FuwareiOP
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                7 days ago

                I think my side profile is much worse than my front profile. I mean I could try sending you a pic, but it is scary for someone to see how ugly and unfeminine my face is. But yeah I’ll do it. Short note: I don’t have shaped eyebrows or anything and maybe that photo is light frauding

                • mljemy
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                  7 days ago

                  Side profiles can be a bitch yeah, just be sure to upload somewhere other than directly to this site since i dont think pics get deleted here ever