• Narcissus
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    9 days ago

    no idiot the reverse. i think trans people measurements better represent the actual sexualities of population. comphet in cis people is so total they dont even consciously deal with it. some older generations can barely comprehend the existence of gay people.

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      9 days ago

      Yeah… idk talking to cis people I just don’t buy this… I never really think cis people come across as comphet tbh whereas I do for trans people all the time

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        9 days ago

        because its thoroughly sublimated to the point of feeling automatic. someone who cannot even concieve of homosexual attraction is not going to be capable of introspection or struggle with those feelings. you do know comphet was created to talk about cis people right?

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          Well yeah obviously but I don’t think it’s a large proportion of straight people though that’s kinda mad

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            genuinely it is though from my experiences among cis people. it just gets passed off as “experimentation” or “confused hormones” or “practice relationships due to not being around the opposite sex” etc. again its so sunlimated that few of them act on it and may feel disgust even at the thought, but that is due to their total association between heterosexuality and the natural and order and such… this is exa tly the argument of adrienne rich in the comp het essay, im not saying some niche thing here…

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              9 days ago

              Ok but “confusion” and “practice relationships” are literally not a common thing at all hello? The only people I’ve ever met who talk like thst and do those things are trans people and that couldn’t be true if it was a MAJORITY of cis people. Like that is an absurd claim

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                mthis is stuff my parent shave said to me to explain why gay people exist. the reason why you havent got this from cis people talking abt thenselves is because theyve never done any introspection of gender or sexuality in their life. this is like saying “everyone in the world wants to make money naturally, this is why communism would never work and capitalism is natural”

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                  But if cis people don’t say this all the time you’re making a baseless claim about the majority of the population which goes in the face of all logic and how they behave lol

                  Also the desire to make money has considerably less of a biological element than sexuality does that’s a stupid comparison

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                    9 days ago

                    im basibg this on my experiences though. like growing up in a all boys school a lottt of those guys who would claim to be straight or even be violently homophobic were often capable of intense homoeroticism where theyd call each other darling and husband or acts like jerking off together or looking at each other naked or practicing kissing etc. this was allowed because they didnt do it “sincerely” and because they didnt “act gay” and professed that their attraction to women was the only real one. adrienne rich of course argues for women from the opposite perspective. cis people cannot comprehend comphet like how fish cannot comprehend the ocean.

                    also the argument of sexuality being “biological”- is this even true? i mean gender isnt a clear absolute biologically or socially so why would sexuality be?