I think it all boils down to self-identified pansexuals having a history for needlessly creating controversy around the label bisexual, and also the way some people just use it to mean “I date the transes too (unlike those phobic bisexuals)”.
I agree with nazar when I say that there probably could be a valuable way for bisexual and pansexual to co-exist as meaningful terms that are truly distinct from eachother, with bisexual meaning positive/active attraction to all/multiple sexual configurations, and pansexual essentially meaning negative/passive attraction to everybody, so it’s less that pansexuals like men and women and enbies or whatever, and more like they’re into some people who happen to be these things, with no real attraction pattern or specific craving to point to outside of “some people are just hot to me, idk”.
My position in the discourse is rather funny, cuz I mostly avoid the term pansexual for myself and opt for bisexual precisely because I’m very positively attracted to androgyny, and definitely have a specific thing for medically transitioning nonbinary people such as myself (with a comparatively lesser degree of interest in men and women also being present), so hearing people say I oughta use pansexual cuz it excludes enbies and/or trans people is just so fucking funny to me. Like I’m literally too into enbies to be pan as I see it (not just physically-speaking, but, like, spiritually, emotionally, and in my ability to just relate to my partner, etc).
Oh yeah, I find myself to be negatively attracted in the way you describe, I think this is best exemplified in my attraction to Whitney from DoL in both his/her Masc and Fem forms… can’t really explain why
I think it all boils down to self-identified pansexuals having a history for needlessly creating controversy around the label bisexual, and also the way some people just use it to mean “I date the transes too (unlike those phobic bisexuals)”.
I agree with nazar when I say that there probably could be a valuable way for bisexual and pansexual to co-exist as meaningful terms that are truly distinct from eachother, with bisexual meaning positive/active attraction to all/multiple sexual configurations, and pansexual essentially meaning negative/passive attraction to everybody, so it’s less that pansexuals like men and women and enbies or whatever, and more like they’re into some people who happen to be these things, with no real attraction pattern or specific craving to point to outside of “some people are just hot to me, idk”.
My position in the discourse is rather funny, cuz I mostly avoid the term pansexual for myself and opt for bisexual precisely because I’m very positively attracted to androgyny, and definitely have a specific thing for medically transitioning nonbinary people such as myself (with a comparatively lesser degree of interest in men and women also being present), so hearing people say I oughta use pansexual cuz it excludes enbies and/or trans people is just so fucking funny to me. Like I’m literally too into enbies to be pan as I see it (not just physically-speaking, but, like, spiritually, emotionally, and in my ability to just relate to my partner, etc).
Oh yeah, I find myself to be negatively attracted in the way you describe, I think this is best exemplified in my attraction to Whitney from DoL in both his/her Masc and Fem forms… can’t really explain why