okay so what about people born in israel as israelis? do they get to stay?
why does the distinction matter anyway? there are still indigenous americans. they were still here first. we are just the descendants of colonials no different from the people you are criticizing. we either ethnically cleanse all colonial settlers and their descendants or none. you cant have it both ways
no, the children of settlers don’t get to stay because they can’t be there without sustained conflict. this is the difference that you don’t seem to be catching. the sustained presence of israel where it is requires continuous bloodshed forever. our ancestors are no different but that happened 400 years ago and nothing can be done about it other than pushing for native americans to be given reparations (that they aren’t ever going to recieve). something can still be done about the multiple genocides going on in the middle east and those cannot stop as long as israel is where it is. israel’s location is incompatible with peace. they should have just come to america and set up a diaspora here like everyone else did but they decided not to and here we are.
the presence of european settlers in the americas still requires daily bloodshed too. is it not as important because its not as many people? you act like the genocide is over, like indigenous women arent continually brutalized and the conditions of peoples on reservations ignored by the state. like residential schools werent still a thing until the 90s in places. like indigenous americans didnt recieve citizenship until the 1920s in the US. like their suffrage wasnt suppressed far into the 70s, like they still arent oppressed into the current day with court decisions.
you say nothing can be done. but thats a cop out. nothing can realistically be done about israel either, but you still call for their ethnic cleansing. so why not do the same for the rest of the colonists and their descendants? or do you some how think we can realistically remove millions of israelis from the region without a genocide?
the title of OOP’s post is “Israel shouldn’t exist and it’s colonists should be expelled to the countries they came from originally, with or without force”
how does one achieve that without ethnic cleansing? but sure. im a retard for holding consistent views ig. yipee
also you ltierally just said earlier
>“no, the children of settlers don’t get to stay”
so obviously you did. again, unless you somehow have a way of doing that without genocide. im sure the former yugoslavian countries would have loved to hear your ideas though
what is so different about the european settlers in the americas and oceania vs the israelis?
“the european settlers” you mean their great-great-great-great-great-great grandkids? you’re retarded
okay so what about people born in israel as israelis? do they get to stay?
why does the distinction matter anyway? there are still indigenous americans. they were still here first. we are just the descendants of colonials no different from the people you are criticizing. we either ethnically cleanse all colonial settlers and their descendants or none. you cant have it both ways
no, the children of settlers don’t get to stay because they can’t be there without sustained conflict. this is the difference that you don’t seem to be catching. the sustained presence of israel where it is requires continuous bloodshed forever. our ancestors are no different but that happened 400 years ago and nothing can be done about it other than pushing for native americans to be given reparations (that they aren’t ever going to recieve). something can still be done about the multiple genocides going on in the middle east and those cannot stop as long as israel is where it is. israel’s location is incompatible with peace. they should have just come to america and set up a diaspora here like everyone else did but they decided not to and here we are.
the presence of european settlers in the americas still requires daily bloodshed too. is it not as important because its not as many people? you act like the genocide is over, like indigenous women arent continually brutalized and the conditions of peoples on reservations ignored by the state. like residential schools werent still a thing until the 90s in places. like indigenous americans didnt recieve citizenship until the 1920s in the US. like their suffrage wasnt suppressed far into the 70s, like they still arent oppressed into the current day with court decisions.
you say nothing can be done. but thats a cop out. nothing can realistically be done about israel either, but you still call for their ethnic cleansing. so why not do the same for the rest of the colonists and their descendants? or do you some how think we can realistically remove millions of israelis from the region without a genocide?
i didnt call for anyone’s ethnic cleansing. you’re a retard and frankly im too drunk for this.
the title of OOP’s post is “Israel shouldn’t exist and it’s colonists should be expelled to the countries they came from originally, with or without force”
how does one achieve that without ethnic cleansing? but sure. im a retard for holding consistent views ig. yipee
also you ltierally just said earlier
>“no, the children of settlers don’t get to stay”
so obviously you did. again, unless you somehow have a way of doing that without genocide. im sure the former yugoslavian countries would have loved to hear your ideas though