This also applies to other settler colonies like a bunch of the middle east, Belarus, Hungary, etc.
So many places are settler colonies but they’ve just been the settlers for a while now and so it’s alright for them to genocide their (still very much alive) natives and minorities or something
if you want to define settler colonialism so broadly to include pre modern steppe nomads then sure ig. but then basically every country is to some extent and atp it makes it too easy to discount very valid criticism against the modern perpetuaters like the USA, Australia, Canada, Israel, etc.
Because the Greeks who got genocided and forcefully expelled from their lands so recently that people are still alive from when that happened are not people, and neither are the Kurds who they’re trying to do it with RIGHT NOW
Also guessing that Belarusians (the actual ones) and Ukrainians aren’t people either
Let’s hate on Kurds again, they’re still not people
The Jewish expulsions in the middle east were justified because they were sent to their home of Israel, but oh wait, Israel isn’t actually their home but it’s still okay because Jews arent people
This is a reasonable take
fine, ill take this in good faith even though you offered me none. im not saying any of the things you said are good. i never claimed that. i dont support the turkish state or whatever else.
but seriously, we cant be calling the turkic and magyar migrations into anatolia and the pannonian basin “settler colonialism”. there was no metropole from which the turks and hungarians were settle on the behalf of. they were nomadic peoples who displaced and interbred with the previous inhabitants of the regions, all of who mind you also settled over the previous people who lived there before them. the greeks were not the original inhabitants of anatolia, what about the hittites? were the celtic peoples who migrated around europe, including to anatolia, also settler colonists?
me when i argue with a fake person in my head:
The Jewish expulsions in the middle east were justified because they were sent to their home of Israel, but oh wait, Israel isn’t actually their home but it’s still okay because Jews arent people
lmaoooooooo
If you look at the Jews of the Middle-East and the reasons why they left for Israel, you’ll see that a lot of the time, their hand was forced.
Most Arab states actually acknowledged that basically forcing Jews to leave under threats of mass arrests, seizure of property, citizenship being revoked, etc. would actually strengthen Israel and legitimise the state, but they fucking did it anyway.
Most modern Israelis descend from those who had been living in places like Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, the Levant, etc., the Arab States had given their “worst enemy” power and legitimacy by doing these things.
After these things and essentially gives Jews no options but to leave for Israel, they then kept their stance that Israel was illegitimate and cannot exist, which I don’t know about you, but forcing people to leave for somewhere and then when they get there, you want to force them to leave again, sounds like you don’t actually want them somewhere else, you want them gone.
I am not even advocating for Israel in any way, shape, or form here, I am not saying any support towards it, I am merely asking how the fuck is it okay to expell people to Israel and then say they can’t be there? It’s a completely wrong thing to do, forced expulsions are a bad thing, I don’t care who’s doing them or what for reason, I will never support forced expulsions such as what happened in Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, etc.
If you look at the Jews of the Middle-East and the reasons why they left for Israel, you’ll see that a lot of the time, their hand was forced.
It was not
Most Arab states actually acknowledged that basically forcing Jews to leave under threats of mass arrests, seizure of property, citizenship being revoked, etc. would actually strengthen Israel and legitimise the state, but they fucking did it anyway.
Most of the mass arrests, threats and attacks on jews were orchestrated by israel as false flag attacks, to encourage jews all over the middle east to move to the new genocidial settler colonist project of israel and strenghten it
Most modern Israelis descend from those who had been living in places like Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, the Levant, etc., the Arab States had given their “worst enemy” power and legitimacy by doing these things.
So I started blasting palestinian children for 80 years and want to destroy their identity anyways
After these things and essentially gives Jews no options but to leave for Israel, they then kept their stance that Israel was illegitimate and cannot exist, which I don’t know about you, but forcing people to leave for somewhere and then when they get there, you want to force them to leave again, sounds like you don’t actually want them somewhere else, you want them gone.
Well you get arrested in the west and put in jail if you critizce jews or netanyahu, while you can say anything about muslims or brown people, I am from the latter group. I deserve a safe heaven ethno state!
I am not even advocating for Israel in any way, shape, or form here, I am not saying any support towards it, I am merely asking how the fuck is it okay to expell people to Israel and then say they can’t be there? It’s a completely wrong thing to do, forced expulsions are a bad thing, I don’t care who’s doing them or what for reason, I will never support forced expulsions such as what happened in Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, etc.
Again they werent forced expelsions in the way you think it is. but I would lvoe to see an actual forced expelsion of all Canaanite jews with suspicious white skin and polish surnames.
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Idk about you, but arresting Jews on mass for crimes they didn’t commit and even torturing them, making them renounce their citizenship, confiscating their property, and even kicking them out directly sounds like they’re forcing the Jews’ hands
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This implies that Israel controlled literally the entire Middle-East which is just ZOG conspiracy and doesn’t make sense the second you think about it considering their opposition to Israel. This also happened in fucking Poland, not sure how Israel controlled Communist Poland.
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That’s a bad thing, all of these are bad things, killing people, and doing these things are bad, they’re not good, that’s the fucking point.
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You can say pretty much whatever you want about Jews in places like Canada or Australia while saying the same about Muslims will get you arrested, I don’t know how the fuck you got it reversed.
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Ashkenazi Jews have pale skin actually isn’t weird at all and doesn’t go against them having Levantine DNA, I’m guessing you’ve just never seen White Arabs before which are a completely real thing and actually relatively common (mainly in places like the Levant). The Polish surnames and such were actually forced upon these Jews, so how is that even an indicator?
This is also a false argument because it denies the fact that most Israelis are Mizrahi which is factually untrue and then it denied the fact that Ashkenazi Jews are genetically Levantine (We are, if you got a problem with it, take it up with DNA and Genetics)
idk about you, but arresting Jews on mass for crimes they didn’t commit and even torturing them, making them renounce their citizenship, confiscating their property, and even kicking them out directly sounds like they’re forcing the Jews’ hands
I said it never happened with the own will of Arabs
This implies that Israel controlled literally the entire Middle-East which is just ZOG conspiracy and doesn’t make sense the second you think about it considering their opposition to Israel. This also happened in fucking Poland, not sure how Israel controlled Communist Poland.
the entire west had the back of Israel and it’s not that hard to make false flag attacks. they have the best intelligence in the world
That’s a bad thing, all of these are bad things, killing people, and doing these things are bad, they’re not good, that’s the fucking point.
Arabs defending themselves against jews is the same as jews genociding arabs actually
You can say pretty much whatever you want about Jews in places like Canada or Australia while saying the same about Muslims will get you arrested, I don’t know how the fuck you got it reversed.
Lmao, look at the belgian jewish neighbourhood filled with soldiers to protect them after an ‘‘anti semitic attack’’ (firework infront of a synagogue as fallse flag attack). Does the same happen with muslim neighbourhoods when a white supremacist kills a dozen muslims in any western country? just an example. saying jews and israel dont have some holy status in the west is just delusional
Ashkenazi Jews have pale skin actually isn’t weird at all and doesn’t go against them having Levantine DNA, I’m guessing you’ve just never seen White Arabs before which are a completely real thing and actually relatively common (mainly in places like the Levant). The Polish surnames and such were actually forced upon these Jews, so how is that even an indicator?
yes, ‘‘white arabs’’ have lived in Europe for thousands of years and have barely any canaanite or middle eastern blood left and carry European names and culture, they totally belong to Arabia and are the rightful heirs of that land despite not living on it for 2000 years. Also the blatant lie of jews being persecuted literally everywhere since forever in history is just bullshit and the same point actual antisemites make but ok
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I have personal experience that shows how little Jews are actually cared about, because Anti-Semitism is okay nowadays. I also agree that in some places protections for things like Mosques are not quite enough, there has been some horrific things, but generally in western countries, there are more protections for Muslims as opposed to Jews in this current environment, there should both obviously be protections enough for both, especially in the place of worship, but I wouldn’t even make this comparison unless you brought it up because it’s kinda fucking retarded.
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White Arabs have been living in Arabia since pre-history because Arabs can be white, variations in skin colour exist and they are an olive-skinned people, same as the Jews and other Mediterranean tropical people but if the circumstances arise, they can appear white, like seriously go and look through lists of Syrian, Lebanese and Palestinian politicians, you will encounter white people fairly quickly.
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The people widely supported these proposals usually do to Islamic Fundamentalism and Nationalist sentiment, Islamic Nationalism was pretty big after the collapse of the Ottoman Turks.
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Israeli Agents like Nasser and al-Suwaidi who had somehow been working for Israel since before Israel became a thing, that’s a little strange but it makes sense, the Jews control the world.
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Israel famously had the support of nations like the USA before they had support of nations like the USA, they can do this because you can get support before getting support, it’s a tactical geopolitical move.
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Genocide is a horrible thing, except for when we’re doing it, you need to make exceptions because of Nationalism or Communism or something, idk just be alright with genocide okay?
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Homo sapiens are settler colonists in Europe that wiped out the Neanderthals
Even if you’re saying it as a joke, it’s technically true yeah
Total KKKraKKKa Homo $$sapien$$ Death
SteppeCHADS stay winning
there r non rus minorities in belrus? r they just pols?
The Actual Belarusians are a minority in their own country, in reality, it’s a Russian settler colony
Belarusian is discouraged to be spoken, their government can only hold onto power because of Russian support and fear of Russian retaliation, and they encourage the destruction of the Belarusian national identity which was not created in the 1900s
i really dont know if thats true? yes belrusian isnt used formally and they r a vassel of russia.
but that is different than settler colonialism, as far as i know belrusians werent partically displaced nor were there russian only cities/colonies made or favored. 84% of belrus is belrusian and 7% russian. russia/moscow did imperialism to belrus but its not a colony let alone a settler colony.
u might be able to make this aurgment for crymia or the far east of the russian federation,
They bred with the natives so it’s okay
“They bred with the natives”
That’s one way to put rape
Nah, there are research about it, rape was minimal
