these are our materialists dog we’re trapped in idealism forever!

  • Loose_Sandwich9217
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    Ok for one, that isn’t what idealism means. Idealism is the idea that the world is governed by ideas and mental constructs rather than material relations. Its the opposite of marxs material conception of history which states that the world is governed by material conditions and the mode of production

    For 2, just because number of bisexuals are increasing does not mean that the majority of people are bisexual, that’s a logical leap which would win the long jump and is an insane claim to make about literally the majority of the human population contrary to any evidence lol

    For 3, and your evidence for this is… I get saying some were comphet but saying most are is an extordinary claim and one you’re making without literally any evidence

    For 4, class society and patriarchy rose alongside the rise of agriculture and didn’t exist in prehistory. Yes obviously feudalism and slave societies were class societies. But why is it that all archiological evidence from prehistory, which predates both class society and patriarchy, indicates heterosexuality as a norm? Why do we often find men and women buried together but very very rarely find men and men are women and women? Why do what we know about social structures from then also indicate heterosexuality as a norm?

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      1. yes i know that? you know that i know that?

      2, 3) ive accepted that we wont agree on this but again, the theory of comphet was introduced by an essay which argues this, its not my personal theory that i came up with.

      1. we both know a history major, we should both be aware of what is involved in historical interpretation and how that is affected by the historian’s own biases and preassumptions. they find a man and a woman in a grave together? must be a marriage! they find a man buried with several women all of them including him wearing the same clothes and hewelry? must be a chief buried with his many wives! two men buried embracing? must be two brothers or two friends!

      the thing is they might be right! but we dont actually know and neither did they, but they assumed a heteronormative lens.

      look, even pre feudalist society had village chiefs. animals have pack leaders or dominant males/females. does that mean that human hierarchy is a natural and unchangeable aspect of society? is ressource hoarding something we just have to accept as natural because those who hoard resources have more power and control of society? just because they always have?

      anyway i dont like arguing with you so im ending it here

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        two men buried embracing? must be two brothers or two friends!

        this happens so rarely that instances of it are genuinely famous

        look, even pre feudalist society had village chiefs

        not necessarily true much of neothithic society was largely egalitarian

        yes i know that? you know that i know that?

        ok but you used it wrong and then defined it wrong when asked…