like holy fucking shit. shut up. shut up shut up shut up!!! do you thibk estrogen just biologically primes women to drool over men or something??? cis lesbians exist! cis gay men exist! holy fucking shit. you arent attracted to women because of testosterone or attracted to men because of estrogen. like hello??? aaahhhh!!!

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    I mean direct causation does always mean correlation… That’s how it works…

    But in actuality yeah some women don’t like the idea of being a gay male so for a woman to be allowed to not be male in her own attraction makes her more into men

    I think that’s the main “cause” anyway

    Though sex hormones do obviously have effect on specific aspects of sexuality (that’s why my ragebait was good its like 30% true…)

    And yes I agree all of this is gross and horrifying but that’s humans for ya…

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      correlation does not equal causation* sorry, i got it swapped around. its been like 7 years since i took AP statistics.

      but the point stands. the only studies i find on this are about prenatal hormones in the womb. nothing about estrogen suddenly making you want dick

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        tbh i wish i could find any studies at all about estrogen/testosterone effects on trans people… such wonderful pseudo-control of variables for research yet trannies are still avoided 😔

        but yeah its no coincidence that its the average bi leaning lesbians who “finds men alluring but stays away from them and women are like normal to like and its fine its there” pre-hrt then turn into straighties after getting a female body

        still though would be cool if there was more research on the specifics

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          yeah most of what i found about trannies was on levels of libido with very little mentioning sexual preferences.

          the one article i did find just now that mentions it I couldn’t access for free sadly but the abstract’s conclusion didnt make any claims about it changing sexual orientation

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        i just like typing :(

        wait just realized you maybe meant she meant to say “correlation doesn’t equal causation”, no i didn’t consider that… I don’t think she did tho

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            …i didnt? i genuinely thought she wrote that

            plus only the first line is really relevant for that, the rest i typed bcs i wanted to rant and alex seems like the person to enjoy rants and friendly arguing so

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              aruging actually makes me extremely anxious because of having to watch my family constantly scream and yell st each other growing up, icl 😭

              so idk why i make posts like these knowing itll cause discourse

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                oh, sorry

                well uh thats my bad, please assume i love you no matter what you or i say during a discussion like this thank you

                …or im shitposting ragebait bcs i find you cute, one or the other

                i really do just like typing and talking with people about random stuff and i never got even slightly genuinely annoyed with you or your takes (even when i really disagree) (since here we basically have the same take so its boring :( )

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                  youre okay, I promise. youre never rude and mean. just that if things get too heated ill almost always back down and just say that im wrong and the other person is right before going to cry because i have 0 backbone and hate any real conflict

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                    thats a shame, its always the people who use their brains that get anxious and upset and back down…

                    this is why im so into the idea of you getting ffs and being a beautiful stable woman, could you imagine what you could do in academia without all the chains fr…

                    …or if it turns out you are indeed non-binary then yknow just “be very comfortable and feel good in your own body”