A few people online think everything bad that has happened in China is fake news by america or smth and that mao zendong was a kind hearted progressive leader that was incredible, when you bring up he let millions starve they just say “atleast he wasnt hitler” am I missing something, am I stupid and retarded snd know nothing abt history and China. I have a friend who lives in China and He views China in a really positive light and fully trusts his government even tho he needs a vpn to talk to me and is genuinely scared of me using his friends qq account to criticise the Chinese government bc hed get arrested. Ofc theres alot good about China and id love to go there someday im just a bit confused why ppl in the west think its some utopia free from capitalism, racism and has lgbt rights or wtv

  • staranise3969
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    11 days ago

    tldr: anyone saying china is anti-west is wrong, china is the west turned up to 11 and we (us, eu, australia) are going there too. they just dont like eachother.

    idk much about chinese culture but im pretty sure the chinese government is kind of like the us in terms of lgbt, not explicitly against but still doesnt want them

    also mao zedong was a piss poor leader imo, he basically forced people to work way more in factories producing steel instead of producing something they could eat, resulting in the famine, but also the great industrialization we know china for, an while the quality of life in cities is objectively good now (like not mental health wise id guess) i dont think sacrificing 60M (i think i learned this number in hs, not sure) people is a reasonable price. im not saying the west had no influence on their need to industrialize to avoid being colonized or smth but yeah the world is fucked and in some places and times, it is more obvious than other

    i often hear about chinese censorship and surveillance state and how it violates human rights: yes this is bad, yes this was worse than in western countries. keyword “was”. every country aspires to this kind of control over their population, and now that we have the means too, the west is jumping on the bandwagon: for example in france here we have new laws that make you unable to navigate privately on the internet by having to show an id to access porn sites, more and more cctv proposed as a solution agaisnt “insecurity”, an inconstitutional facial recognition app given to every police officer, cameras of phones and computer randomly turning on secretly to “try to catch terrorists”, and many more im sure, we just have less incentive to tell on ourselves, instead we point the finge elsewhere

    /drunk rant ends here