I’m having a disagreement with a sneed I know and I don’t really know how to illustrate to her this stuff is retarded and useless and sickening.
they arent nouns. they are verbs.
im not a amab, i was ASSIGNED male at birth. it was an action that was done to me, not something that i am.
agab terminology is only useful when its intersex people discussing potential mutilation and stuff that was forced on them. other wise its just a “woke” way to be transphobic
truke.
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They were stolen from the intersex community and nowadays near exclusively serve to deny transsexuals our true gender. It is not dissimilar from the term “biological male who identifies as female” and its equivalents. If you need to talk about a specific trait e.g. people with a penis you should just say that (as the other commenter said) instead of using the term ‘AMAB’ because even then it’s not entirely accurate
they are tainted by bioessentialism
could you expound?
something like amab and afab aren’t by necessity bio essentialist, but they have become that way through lgbt discourse. the association now is amab = man and afab = woman, when i think they were just meant to describe what people called you the moment you were born. they’re also not very useful terms outside of like intersex discourse i think
they are extremely useless to describe anything bar the fact that the doctor thay gave birth to you assumed you were x gender based on their assumption about how your genitals looked like at the moment of birth. it’s absurd.
some people who were amab have functioning ovaries and can get pregnant. some people who were afab have penis and testicles. it’s completely useless and it’s only used in contexts where that dumb moment in time is extrapolated to the most intersexist and bio essentialist conclussions that solidifies the transphobic, intersexist notion that your agab has any weight in who you are as a person at all or how your body looks like in the present.
A well-written piece!
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gender assignment is something that happens exactly once in a persons life (usually there might be the cases idk) and does not inherently tell you anything of what their current experience or anatomy is like
also every time ive seen it actually used irl its just been misgendering but wokely
It was a term made for intersex ppl to describe what happened to them in the past. “I was assigned male at birth.” it was created to show how doctors were factually wrong in the sexing and that they are something entirely different. some trans people started using the term for the same reasons but it quickly devolved into what we have now. It used to be that you WERE agab but now you ARE abag and thats a scientific fact you cant change. thats an entirely different topic on whether hrt functionally changes your sex (it does)
Because its judging me by my biology and applying stereotypes to me accordingly. The line of reasoning for thinking in AGAB is identical to racism.
Honestly, it feels like a way to extract a social/legal designation and apply it in ways that people intend to be some sort of factual, universal truth. I am an AMAB manly male man, but I have a risk factor for osteoporosis pretty on par with my mom. I may be an AMAB male man, but clothes designed for women tend to fit me better (yes, I’ve seen people use AGAB language for clothes shopping lol). Just call me a man if that’s what you want to say.
Honestly everyone who doesn’t instantly see the issue probably has the same ideas as the people who use those terms too much in wrong contexts, don’t think theres much you can do to explain the term itself.
So I guess just go for the classic radical idea of trans women are women (but actually meaning it)
people say things like “i am amab/afab” instead of “i was amab/afab” which just turns it into a woke way to call people male/female
When I hear AFAB excessively used by theyfabs, they’re referring to “people seen socially as women, who have female bodies”. The problem is, well, medical transition. I was AFAB and am seen as male.












