Remember that video https://www.reddit.com/r/4tran4/s/soTbfw3mkm someone filmed of a ftm support meet up? A lot of the people there didn’t pass which meant that they’re all he/theyfabs not on t. It couldn’t be that a lot of them look like teenagers or people in their early twenties who may have just started hrt or are struggling to find it.
4tranners can be more judgemental towards clocky trans men than some cissoids. Yeah, some of these people are probably non transistioners/transgender but not transsexual or whatever you want to call it but. But i guarantee you if this was a room full of clocky trans women the comments would be far more supportive
i said smth similar recently but the judgement towards ppl who dont pass, i think its a symptom of seeing someone that also embodies the feelings of self hatred about urself and ur own body. that doesnt make the feeling ok, but thats where it comes from for me.
and for troons i think the theyfab hate is simply a product of extreme jealousy. theyfabs are considered to be women playing with their femininity (which is pretty misogynist really). something we covet bc we were habitually denied it as part of our upbringing, and is also physically no longer possible for ppl like me. theyfab hate is generally stupid and pointless. ive never liked it. even tho i understand it i think.