it’s always on replies or quotes about a doomer tttt tranny saying estrogen is placebo then always comes a tranny who was the extreme spectrum of masculinity before transition and then she shows the after she’s still clocky but better than before because the change is pretty obvious noticeable and shocking, most of the tttt girls who say it’s placebo are those who were already kinda androgynous pre HRT or didn’t had a huge masculine cope before, they were just long haired guys before and were already very disphoric and repping, so the change is subtle and unnoticeable, it’s easy to claim estrogen is magic when you were a hulking male before transition (and honestly when you’re brainwormed enough you know most of these are just a haircut, maybe laser shaving, make up and angles, it’s the absolute same structure), we shouldn’t be spreading that estrogen is placebo but we also shouldn’t be selling like a miracle drug comeon