well, firstly, i hate all biological determinism. i thinks mostly bs. theres somethings obviously that are genetic, but generally im a very big nurture over nature kind of person.
but more than that, i just hate it out of priciple. because why does it matter? if we arent born with a gendered soul, or the brain of the other sex or whatever else, then why does it matter? does that make the pain of dysphoria less real? does that make the treatment any different? i dont think so.
its like how i hate gays talking about homosexuality in nature. like cool, but it doesnt mean anything. if humans were the only species on the planet to practice homosexual relations, itd still be okay for gay people to exist.
we dont live natural lives, we are so much more complex than that. if someone isnt hurting another person, then thats all that should matter. the ones who hate us, who hate gay people, they dont care about appeals to nature. its just fighting them on their own terf and conceding to their arguments because they’ll never believe anything but their own reactionary world views anyway.
i mean, it kind of already is. colorado just got told it cant ban conversion therapy i think. my state has it literally protected, not even not banned, but like counties arent allowed to ban it themselves
Yeah, I know. I just feel like in the case of it being nurture, the conversion therapy will become worldwide pracrice, not just in rising fascism places, but even in woke ones, with HRT becoming even harder to obtain.
if its purely looked at as biological though, it can easily be made to restrict access to hrt based on arbitrary lines.
like what if someone still feels horribly, suicidally dysphoric, but they dont have a female neruomap or whatever and thats used to deny them care?
or what if access to hrt is locked behind getting said brainscan that many people wouldn’t be able to afford?
My country requires karyotype to get diagnosis and they may deny based on results, so I can see what you mean.
I feel like both scenarios are bad, then. With nurture, you get conversion therapy; with nature, you get gatekeeping. In this case there are only two ways: never researching what causes GD, which is stupid; or transform the whole system to informed consent, where anyone can take HRT for any reason, which I doubt will happen in our lifetimes.
But from the debate standpoint, I still think there are genetic components to it, in the same way there are genetic components for anything, including personality.
not saying genetics play literally 0 factor of course, just that even if it did it wouldnt mske these things illegitimate in my view.
I guess we will both stay with our views, then. Because If it is more or less purely nurture, I will detransition the moment I find out, so I can’t see that your way, sorry.
wokes are sleeper hitlers