“Rapestick, Rapist Hormones, Testosterone Tumors, Bad gender, the ugly sex…”

They all just sound like very strong internalized misandry and a hatred for masculinity and one’s body and maybe that is simply the result from having a really bad father figure, not being very manly as a child, high masculine expectations and terrible socialisation, and so this results in people trying to flee from manhood into something where they think that the grass is greener on the other side when that is not garaunteed. And so maybe this is just us trying to compensate into the opposite direction and run away from masculinity because the only people who modeled it for us where abusive and so we resented it in ourselves. Maybe we are just hyper sensitive men who developed deep seeted gendered self hatred…

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      Proof? If you are a memoryluckshit and remember since you’re ten that you wanted to be a girl then be my guest cause you are truetrans (very probably) but that is not the case for all of us if we are being honest…

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        Be honest here, how am I supposed to prove to you I have been dysphoric at age 4?

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          If you have the memories, that is enough proof for me… maybe some circumstancial evidence like a picture or diary would be nice. But the memories are enough. Sadly… compared to you, I dont have troon memories… if anything then I have anti-troon or very cis memories… I am a memoryunluckshit

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    Maybe us rogd late onset could be this way, but those who knew early on disprove any theory like this. But we need to take hrt either way, there’s no cure.

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        Well maybe I’ll choose the first option if I’m a gigahon. And by steroid abuse you mean estrogen? Estradiol is a steroid hormone.

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    No saying those things is just the result of a deep self hatred due to a) intense dysphoria and b) social conditioning that makes trannies hate themselves and see themselves as forever male, transphobia not misandry.

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    also i had great masculine role models im just not one

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      I really dont believe you had a good relationship with your father… that is impossible for a troon, except if your dad is like a soymilk liberal or something or a repper… also if that’s not it then maybe it is your relationship with your mom that is the culprit in all this…

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        my realtionship with both my parents was very loving, and remains close on their side. if i had never tried to transition theyd be perfect parents.

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          if i had never tried to transition theyd be perfect parents.

          Kinda sounds like they werent all that perfect after all, huh

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            well by your logic i should never have had the impulse to troon in the first place.

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    no lmao. plenty of gay men are hyper masculine, look at tom of finland’s drawings.

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      Yeah but I am talking about troons, not about gay men… and also maybe masculine gay men (which are almost always just tops and bears) are simply the straight version of gay because they are the active, not the passive (kind of like roman sexuality) and so thereby they simply are not actually “gay” because in a sense they still have the same role of domination and being the active partner, that straight men have and so they are more similar to straight men in those regards than to the effeminate gay bottom.

      So… those who turn into tops and bears are just straight men who might hate women so much that they instead just have sex with men or that fetishize male youth or them simply perverse in the sense of being functionally bisexual but choosing to simply be with men because they simply adopted a certain sexual script which is being with men.

      And those who turn into bottoms are more like the people described in the post and are more like women and passive and the complete opposite. So kinda like there are only two sexualities and two genders which is the feminine passive and the masculine active

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        ok so a) top and bottom is not that strict, theres plenty of switches and sides. also b) masculine bottoms exist and less masculine tops. like this is just you projecting an idea of how gay people are onto what is actually a very diverse group of people.

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          Maybe switches and sides are fake because they always prefer on thing and then that thing is the thing they are… and idk masculine bottoms just dissociate or something or have a scewed internal self perception compared and so they are not aware of their masculinity when they are in this position… so like mismatch… or maybe they are outwardly masculine but simply not sufficently so to not be bottoms.

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            but theyre real. you cant just say “must be fake” when data that doesnt fit your theory comes up…and masciline botto.s dont dissassociate either… this is all just treating the ideal of heteronormative sexuality with masculine active and femine passive as being an actual law of sexuality and gender as opposed to an imposed framing/restriction. people dont actually work like that.

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                yes im sure lol. like. my upbri n ging was completely traditional with a lot of care and attention given to me and yet im still a tranny faggot and the feelibgs havent gone away even after being forced to repress. so all of this stuff is complete nonsense

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      But how do you know that… kind of a chicken and the trans egg problem here.

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        deleted my comment because i realised this is the manmoder sub and im an evil passoid